War criminals: Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney … Blair

For Panorama’s Licence to Torture last night, Hilary Andersson said:

I chose to ask whether a crime was committed by members of the Bush administration in authorising the interrogation techniques in question. It seemed a central question to ask of the world’s most powerful democracy.

Obama refuses to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and co-conspirators for war crimes during Bush’s tenure, but he is willing to go after the lawyers who supposedly advised the regime on ways to tweak their operations and the law, to make torture legal.

This, despite the fact that the atrocities perpetrated by the Bush regime in Guantanamo and elsewhere are in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Bush and Rumsfeld contended that prisoners were treated properly as prisoners of war, as per the Geneva convention rules, but most involved in the operations knew that these were bald-faced lies.

Prison guards who perpetrated the torture – underlings – face censure for their evil deeds, as they should. But if those deeds were sanctioned or encouraged, as Licence to Torture asserts, then surely Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, architects of the torture policies, are ultimately culpable.

It’s true that no soldier can expect mercy for “following orders” when he knows that those orders are illegal or just plain wrong – as Nuremberg exemplified. But if a soldier is found guilty for following orders, then those that gave the orders, or made it possible to do so, should be far more severely dealt with.

The Bush / Cheney “exigent circumstances” argument cannot justify their torture policies and nor can their amendments to US law to accommodate their new definitions of torture be allowed to exonerate them, where they defy the Geneva Convention rules. If America and Britain are permitted to get away with torture, they cannot cry foul in future conflicts when their own soldiers suffer the same fate as the Guantanamo detainees.

Should Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney be indicted, can Blair conceivably escape the same fate?

It would be most peculiar were the EU to appoint a potential war criminal as its first ‘permanent’ President. What message would that send to the rest of the world?

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7 Responses to “War criminals: Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney … Blair”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    How about the use of "dum-dum" bullets by Cressida Dicks (high ranking Common Purpose member who was promoted after the murder) team of teflon coated police murderers, who murdered Mr Demenezes (sp?).

    Dum dums are against the geneva convention in wartime, let alone in public areas on the streets of London, err, underground.

    Who authorised their use???

    The whole episode is a f*cking travesty of justice.

  2. Faust Says:

    Good point.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Concerning Blair.
    The war in Iraq was fought because of 9/11.

    9/11 destroyed building "7". This was a miracle, because nothing hit building "7", – – it fell as if it was demolished. In the basement of building "7" were documents relating to the sale by JPM of $2trillion of T bills in excess of Treasury instructions.

    Before Iraq, there was the Serbian war to "free" the muslims, the net result being that Kosova is now independent. In fact they are ruled by career criminals, in turn controlled by the CIA.

    Since the US intervention in Afghanistan, poppy cultivation has increased by 2,000%, despite the MSM crap we are fed. The drugs are fed into Europe, via Kosova, monitored by the CIA from their vast military post there.

    JPM runs the "back-office" functions of the Bank of Baghdad, where the proceeds of Afghan poppy growth are laundered.

    The UK followed the US into Iraq, and now Afghanistan. Blair is now employed by JPM as a part time global consultant/advisor. The salary is rumoured to be $1 million p.a.

    Now the c*nt is in line for EU president.

    In the last 2 weeks, Israeli nuclear subs went through the Suez into the Indian Ocean.
    Last week 2 warships followed.
    Now Israeli jets are practicing long range activities in the US.
    Israel has secured an overflight OK from Saudi Arabia.
    The US is sending more troops to Afghanistan, so is the UK. There are far greater activities there than the MSM tells us.
    The Al-beeb has suddenly began glorifying our war-dead, accompanied by detailed front line propaganda.
    High ranking Japanese executives at certain companies have been instructed to be in Japan by September.
    US embassies abroad have been instructed to quietly purchase enough local currency to last up to 6 months expenditure. But not sterling!!!!!!
    Pakistan has up to 100 nuclear warheads.
    Reliable bloggers are predicting a long bank holiday, as was with FDR.
    Is a global "reset" of currencies coming together with a whole fan full of military shit?

    World leaders were presented with pure gold coins by medvedev when they met last week.

    It's not looking pretty.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    I'm wondering….
    With friends like those….

  5. Doubting Richard Says:

    The Geneva Conventions do not apply to illegal combatants. There is a very good reason for this. It is to encourage military structures with accountability in order to be able to enforce the very rules, customs and practices of war.

    The people captured and sent to Guantanamo Bay were not lawful combatants. In fact they would probably have been summarily executed if left in Afghan hands. That would have been perfectly legal by the customs and practices of war, and happened to many combatants. While I accept that the US took them for their own intelligence reasons they did save the lives of these people. They are also treated fairly well most of the time, and in most cases all of the time. No claims of torture have been substantiated, and even waterboarding was only used a handful of times, and then stopped.

    Waterboarding is hardly torture. The British military put their own people through experiences as bad as that for training in R2I, resistance to interrogation.

    As for other locations, a lot less is known for certain. However the one thing that is known is that any combatants captured are not protected by international law, as there are no lawful combatants. They have no uniform, accountable rank structure with rank insignia, defined system of discipline and courts martial etc. The idea that war crimes have been committed is a myth, a persistent one largely because even large media organisations have no understanding at all of the Geneva Conventions and its quite deliberate limitations.

  6. Anonymous Says:

    Doubting Richard.

    The entire legality if the Iraq war is under question.
    I would say the same for Afghanistan, and it's more than overdue that penetrating questions were being asked concerning the Afghan "war".
    If they are illegal wars, then all our troops, and their commanders at every level, including the filthy politicians, are guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, etc, etc. Milosovich was a pussy cat compared to them, but he died in suspicious circumstances under the control of an "international court" with very dubious authority.
    Doubting the strict letter of the law fails in every respect when the basis for the act (war) is itself illegal.
    The politicians are responsible to us, the voters. Well overdue that they remember that.
    You should remember it too.

  7. banned Says:

    Doubting Richard, good points.
    As for Blair and his ambition to become the first Appointocrat President of the undemocratic EU, well if Europe wants a potential War Criminal at its' head more fool them but I do hope that they make him go through much ridiculous ceremonial and false pageantry for us to mock at.

    Antony Blair President Napoleon V.

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